1/22/2012 6:07:22 PM Try A.R.M.S., very good stuff. This may be your best option: http://www.mountsplus.com/AR-15_Accessories/AR-15_Scope_Rings/ARMS-6.html I am looking for a suitable mount for my Zeiss Orion 80. It has got a stanag scope mount arms #21 base as part of the scope. TNVC sells the M845 scope with stanag scope mount arms #21 #310 base which places the scope far enough back to make it usable. Would this base fit the Orion? If yes, what would be the source to get it? Thanks: longshot270 Dawg180